Posted by: distributorcap | June 16, 2009

Health Care Reform – Part Penta- some stats

On a per person basis, the United States spends more on health care than any other nation on Earth. Are we getting our money’s worth. A comparison to 7 other countries.

It is expensive to get sick in the US.

  • Column A – % of total Economic output (GDP) that Health care comprises. The US ranks #2 in the world, behind Timor. 15.3% of our GDP is Health care, almost double that of Australia. A large chunk of our economy (almost 1/6) is made up of Health care.
  • Column B – % of total Health care dollars that comes from the Government. For major Western nations, the US ranks near the bottom – meaning we have about the least “socialized medicine” around.
  • Column C – Government spending on Health care as a % of total Government spending. The US actually ranks #5 – behind Nauru, Haiti, Andorra and Costa Rica. A larger percent of our Health care dollars comes from the Government than the “socialized medicine” countries like Canada and France.
  • Column D – Per Capita spending on Health Care overall. Not even close – the US is by far #1 in the world.

% of % of HC $ Gvt $ to $ per
GDP on from HC % 0f
capita on
Hlth Care Govt Ttl Govt Health
United States 15.3% 45.8% 19.3% $6,719
Australia 8.7% 67.7% 17.0% $3,302
Canada 10.0% 70.4% 17.8% $3,917
France 11.0% 79.7% 16.7% $3,937
Germany 10.6% 76.9% 17.9% $3,718
Israel 8.0% 56.0% 9.9% $1,675
Japan 8.1% 81.3% 17.9% $2,759
UK 8.2% 87.3% 16.3% $3,332

Now what does that money buy for the basic Health care statistics.

  • Column A – Life Expectancy. The US is among the lowest in the industrialized West. Overall the US ranks #31.
  • Column B – Infant mortality per 1,000 births. Again the US has one of the highest rates in the industrialized West. Overall the US ranks #44.
  • Column C – Adults mortality ages 15-60 per 1,000 adults. Again the US has one of the highest death rates for people ages 15-60, Overall the US ranks #43.
  • Column D – % of Adults 15+ using tobacco. The US has one of the lowest rates of tobacco use in the West, Britain one of the highest.
Life Inf Mort Age 15-60 % use
Expect per 1000 Mort/1000 tobacco
United States 78 7 109 23.9%
Australia 82 5 65 24.7%
Canada 81 5 72 21.6%
France 81 4 91 31.6%
Germany 80 4 81 26.6%
Israel 81 4 68 24.6%
Japan 83 3 67 29.3%
UK 80 5 80 35.7%

Of course disease is not just a function of Health care. Genetics, sociological, diet, environment, lifestyle all play a part.

  • Column A – deaths per 100,000 people from Cardiovascular disease. The US and UK fare poorly compared to other industrial nations. The other Western nations all fare relatively close, except for Japan – which has the lowest mortality rate from Cardiovascular disease in the world – probably due to their diet and genetics. Overall the US ranks a relatively decent #26.
  • Column B -deaths per 100,000 people from Cancer. Again the Western nations all fare relatively close, except for Japan – which has a low mortality from Cancers. The nations with the lowest death rates from Cancer are almost all in the Middle East – Syria, Morocco, Qatar, Kuwait, Libya, and Tunisia are all in the top 10 for lowest rate. Overall the US ranks a poor #99.
  • Column C – Rate of Tuberculosis per 100,000. The US ranks very high here – #2 lowest rate in the world. Cleaner air and relatively good sanitary conditions help.
  • Column D – HIV cases per year. The US is among the highest for industrial nations. However southern African nations are by far in the worst shape. Botswana has over 23,000 cases per 100,000 people – that is almost 25% of the population.
per 100,000 deaths deaths Rate HIV cases
Cardio Cancer of TB per year
United States 188 134 4 508
Australia 140 127 7 99
Canada 141 138 5 222
France 118 142 14 263
Germany 211 141 6 69
Israel 136 133 8 NA
Japan 106 119 22 100
UK 182 143 15 137

And how are we taking care of ourselves for all the money we spend

  • Column A -% of populaton over 15 that is obese. The US is the worst among industrial nations, and one of the worst overall. We can take solace that Iraq is almost as bad
  • Column B – Physicians per 10,000. For all that money we spend we rank #45 in the number of doctors per 10,000 people. And that is the average – the amoung of physicians geographically around the country is extremely skewed toward urban areas.
  • Column C – Hospital beds per 10,000. No wonder they throw you out so fast – besides being expensive there aren’t enough. The US ranks #71 in the world. If you need to stay in hospital, go to Japan.

% >15 Physicians Hosp Beds
obese per 10,000 per 10,000
United States 32.0% 26 32
Australia 15.5% 25 40
Canada 14.9% 19 34
France 15.0% 34 73
Germany 8.1% 34 83
Israel NA 37 60
Japan 3.1% 21 141
UK 22.0% 23 39

I am just presenting some facts – to make us think about the priorities, methods and consequences of our current health care system – and where do we go from here.

Source: World Health Organization 2006-07-08

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Responses

  1. Wow, those numbers are staggering!

  2. the people who are already convinced that we need health care reform don't need charts and numbers. those who argue against are the people who have a history of not giving a shit about facts.

  3. I'm starting to think Obama will end up taking his marching orders from the big insurance companies and the AMA, and fucking us taxpayers in the bargain.His credibility is wearing awfully thin with a lot of us who once believed in him wholeheartedly.For a while I led the chorus of those who told others to give him a little more time on the job before passing judgment on him, but week by week he's starting to sorely disappoint me.Meet the same boss, same as the old boss. Examples:1. Let's see those court ordered torture pics2. Close Gitmo3. End that war in Iraq4. Investigate Bush war criminals5. Stop fucking gay people6. Stop domestic spying on ordinary citizens7. Stop keeping lists of White House visitors' logs secret8. Stop acting like the GOP owns you.Did we elect Bush's fucking brother, or what?

  4. Hi Cap;Two things I see. Looks like Americans are getting conned and it appears that smoking is good for your health if you take the statistics of France and Japan into account :)A little drink and tobacco would probably make many Americans feel better. Its the stress of paying medical bills which is killing them. 🙂

  5. How exactly do all of you lie-bruls expect to pay for universal health care when we have so many unwaged wars to fight, not to mention the blowing up of people on a daily basis now? Bombs cost money, dammit.

  6. DCap… great numbers, but you are screaming in a loud disco with this one. Despite the polls showing that a majority of Americans would favor a single-payer system, all it takes is another well-placed "Harry and Louise" ad to abandon the facts you present here and give in to the feeling that socialized healthcare would mean higher taxes and lower quality care.

  7. You would think that, as screwed up and expensive healthcare is now–even for insured Americans–people would say, "dammit, ANYTHING'S better than what we have now!" Of course, we little people are already saying that, but the only voices being heard are those of the insurance industry and their sponsored advertisements, as Spartacus mentioned.

  8. I've seen a lot of these figures before, but you did a stellar job of portraying the sell out at White House Creek.And they're shooting doctors who do medically necessary abortions aren't they?I got the statistician blues again, my friend. And no good will come of it.SFor all that money we spend we rank #45 in the number of doctors per 10,000 people. And that is the average – the amount of physicians geographically around the country is extremely skewed toward urban areas.Column C – Hospital beds per 10,000. No wonder they throw you out so fast – besides being expensive there aren't enough. The US ranks #71 in the world. If you need to stay in hospital, go to Japan.

  9. Your figures sure make an excellent case for single payer.


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